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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Notes from the Labor WG call 2019-08-09&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;DLF WG on Labor in Digital Libraries, Archives and Museums: Valuing Labor Subgroup&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Meeting minutes: August 9, 2019&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Contingent Positions&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Erin Hurley&lt;br /&gt;
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Note-taker: Amy Wickner&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://wiki.diglib.org/Labor/Valuing-Labor/2019-Calls Complete 2019 schedule]&lt;br /&gt;
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== SAA labor discussions recap ==&lt;br /&gt;
Activities &amp;amp; sessions related to labor issues broadly&lt;br /&gt;
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Pop-up on low pay in archives - low salaries, student debt, other contributing factors to the struggle to make a living as an archivist https://sched.co/ORkV&lt;br /&gt;
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Forum on archivist salaries https://sched.co/QYaz&lt;br /&gt;
* potential of putting policy into place for SAA Job Board requiring salaries to be listed, for &amp;amp; against format, Q&amp;amp;A, open forum&lt;br /&gt;
* Set precedent of people saying their salaries before commenting&lt;br /&gt;
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Itza Carbajal created a salary tracking spreadsheet (in the resources below!)&lt;br /&gt;
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Report back on SAA council agenda - interest in continuing to do more work re: low salaries &amp;amp; archives field&lt;br /&gt;
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Issues &amp;amp; Advocacy + SNAP: https://sched.co/OKYI&lt;br /&gt;
* Creating opportunities for paid internships https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1QGCZFv22YRAIBgkegYynzBEYR_AcWCDY9CNgkw7z9iw/edit#slide=id.g5e5272d50e_0_346&lt;br /&gt;
* Temporary archivists survey results shared out - not sure yet where to release it&lt;br /&gt;
* From Council: SAA job board now officially states that no unpaid internships will be listed. Under a tab now labeled &amp;quot;Paid Internships&amp;quot; - &amp;quot;If monetary compensation is not indicated in the internship description, the position will not be posted to this directory.&amp;quot; https://careers.archivists.org/jobseekers/internships/&lt;br /&gt;
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Collective Responsibility Forum: https://sched.co/NjQJ - preview of the white paper&lt;br /&gt;
* Part 1: presenting outcomes from white paper&lt;br /&gt;
* Part 2: breakouts to engage a theme or responsibility &amp;amp; talk about more concrete solutions leading into 2nd forum&lt;br /&gt;
* See Collective Responsibility OSF repo: https://osf.io/af9hz/ &lt;br /&gt;
* Status of Labor WG guidelines for contingent labor?&lt;br /&gt;
** Draft out for public comments, led into grant project to bring different actors together towards concrete solutions&lt;br /&gt;
** https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C0VSpyM4z5co9BrrhgQX0Jtvhc79Wtmlq_va4kQYiR0/edit?usp=sharing&lt;br /&gt;
** Wondering how effective a document would be - lots of statements etc. out there that don’t turn into anything concrete&lt;br /&gt;
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Back to salaries… How to make salary data actionable? Is there a form of accreditation that can address labor issues? Lots of surveys going around - what are people hoping to do with that?&lt;br /&gt;
* Tension between - is the point to give individuals more information for negotiating or to develop collective action?&lt;br /&gt;
* Do professional organizations have a responsibility to get involved in these things? So far this has been a hard argument to make, orgs feel like it’s not their role to be getting into specific characteristics of e.g. pay&lt;br /&gt;
* Not many orgs with the exception of DLF have seen it as their responsibility to get involved; mostly regional orgs feeling emboldened to take this up:&lt;br /&gt;
** SCA statement in support of UCLA archivists, creating task force on labor issues&lt;br /&gt;
** Southwest Archivists blogging about it&lt;br /&gt;
** New England Archivists survey (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aFVWuA6zJsrTGFoPuKeU8K6SJ1Sggv2h/view), statement of support (https://www.newenglandarchivists.org/Official-Statements/6814976), something&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are labor issues (etc.) getting more traction in some orgs than others?&lt;br /&gt;
* Org structures, culture of how things get done&lt;br /&gt;
* It&amp;#039;s the structure of the orgs&lt;br /&gt;
* DLF is open, SAA is far more hierarchical&lt;br /&gt;
* There&amp;#039;s not a culture of member-led projects at SAA; leadership-led projects, sure, people who have specific volunteer roles.&lt;br /&gt;
* also the SAA council is the most diverse Council they&amp;#039;ve ever been and that shows in what they are caring about right now.&lt;br /&gt;
* Where revenue comes from e.g. job board for SAA: https://twitter.com/akaGladys/status/1158060807428673539?s=09&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discussion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The present: project positions exist; how can we make them more ethical and equitable? How can we center worker agency? ===&lt;br /&gt;
Tension between needs of the present v. hope for the future&lt;br /&gt;
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Everything is designed a certain way &lt;br /&gt;
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Lack of institutional accountability&lt;br /&gt;
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Lack of information&lt;br /&gt;
* workers don’t get to see the grant documentation&lt;br /&gt;
** Some exceptions, but should be the baseline&lt;br /&gt;
* managers don’t know that archivists are on food stamps, have no idea what’s going on &amp;amp; no incentive to correct&lt;br /&gt;
* “Lack of imagination” -- Dorothy Berry&lt;br /&gt;
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Long-term dismantling&lt;br /&gt;
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Interim - design mechanisms for institutional accountability e.g. connecting funder reps directly to workers, workers can see grant budget, feedback loop, institutions know they’ll be periodically assessed by workers -- institutional profiles (the more punitive option)&lt;br /&gt;
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Goal is structural accountability&lt;br /&gt;
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Contingent positions internally funded, term-limited nature not dictated by a grant but by institutional design / how inst funds itself&lt;br /&gt;
* The biggest surprise for me from I&amp;amp;A section temp job survey is that 50% of the funding for project positions is internal institutional funding, not grant funding ** https://twitter.com/alexiadpuravida/status/1157715640364523525?s=09&lt;br /&gt;
* Setting forth guidelines for funders doesn’t really apply where institutions fund themselves&lt;br /&gt;
* Library workers on 3-year contract positions&lt;br /&gt;
* Why do institutions do this?????? (I have some opinions…)&lt;br /&gt;
* internal contingent positions are the hardest to deal with - they are the most exploitative, the part-time contract that keeps getting renewed but is never certain&lt;br /&gt;
* A really useful data point would be how many of those contingent pilot positions ever turned into new full-time positions. Not sure how we would find that out, but it would be interesting to see&lt;br /&gt;
** in my experience, they never pan out to full time!!&lt;br /&gt;
** We asked that question in our survey (but restricted to grant funded) and 66% of workers who stayed at their institution moved right into another contingent position rather than perm&lt;br /&gt;
* State archives: PT temp, limit 2-years, trying to build a case to turn this into a permanent position but it’s a long process with HR &amp;amp; moving around internal resources. Know we want this support but only so many FTEs&lt;br /&gt;
** Person in this job should have been able to do an entry-level position with new masters degree but had to wait around while we tried to decide, ended up moving into a different division for a permanent position&lt;br /&gt;
** If someone is working 40hrs/week for a year, automatically become eligible for health insurance (Utah)&lt;br /&gt;
** California: laws that if you’re in a term-limited position for a certain number of years, automatically earn more job protection, colloquial wisdom was that you couldn’t expect more than 3 years at a particular California institution because institution would see it as a liability that you would qualify for more job protection&lt;br /&gt;
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Tension between how people think these positions are supposed to work in the abstract and how they work in reality&lt;br /&gt;
* No good pathway from entry-level to experience; people just stuck around long enough&lt;br /&gt;
* Can we make a one-pager of mythbusters?&lt;br /&gt;
** helpful for advocating against the exploitative use of contract/outsourced work in your institution to higher ups (something we are attempting to do at the moment). So hard to find the hard data on this.&lt;br /&gt;
** we could just use data analyzed from the temporary positions survey.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The future: What are the systemic issues that cause us to rely on project labor and how can managers begin to address these issues in the workplace? ===&lt;br /&gt;
Feels like impacts on workers have root causes in strategic planning &amp;amp; how leaders see their roles as stewards of organizations: if a leader thinks their role is to go out and keep bringing in new $$ &amp;amp; projects for an institution, that has one kind of impact on workers. if they think their role is to closely match workers&amp;#039; abilities &amp;amp; aspirations to the kinds of programs and services the organization produces / maintains, that approach has a different kind of impact on workers. Not every approach is going to work at every scale, but many LAM institutions &amp;amp; leaders seem to focus really hard on the large-scale approaches that are all about size &amp;amp; growth. Want to see leadership imagine &amp;amp; behave differently.&lt;br /&gt;
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Leaders haven’t held these positions in a long time, or ever; divorced from the impacts on workers&lt;br /&gt;
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There has been a lot of great work recently about impacts on temporary workers but can we also think about how it impacts the field as a whole? Contingent position after position affects the leadership pipeline &amp;amp; demographics: no opportunities to advance, end up burning out &amp;amp; leaving the field altogether&lt;br /&gt;
* This point is a missing piece that can contribute to seeing how non-contingent workers have a stake in conditions of temp &amp;amp; contingent workers too&lt;br /&gt;
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Similar to why unpaid internships suck! See Karly’s article: https://journals.litwinbooks.com/index.php/jclis/article/view/88&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking at high-level positions, seems impossible to build the type of experience needed, from where we are, restarting the clock every 2 years&lt;br /&gt;
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Lots of failed searches at high level because there are no new folks coming up&lt;br /&gt;
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Narrowly defining relevant experience → instead, trying to be open about requirements such as supervisory experience, reframe as leadership in working with a team of people, moving away from hierarchical models&lt;br /&gt;
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Who are we leaving out when we just borrow requirements from other job postings without thinking?&lt;br /&gt;
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Contingent work, especially overlapping or serial, can make it hard to quantify experience in the way job descriptions require - they don’t reflect the reality of those transitions &amp;amp; what jobs people actually have&lt;br /&gt;
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We chose grants for Collective Responsibility because it was easy to identify the actors (and the money?), also prestige of getting major institutions to follow guidelines could help start a shift → rebranding what it means to be a responsible institution, like why not consider workers???&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Self-advocacy and advocating for others ===&lt;br /&gt;
How can we teach workers how to advocate for themselves at work, without putting all of the responsibility for success or failure on the worker?&lt;br /&gt;
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How to do without fear of retaliation?&lt;br /&gt;
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Collective approach: people in more stable or riskier positions take on responsibility&lt;br /&gt;
* But how often does that happen? E.g. anti-racism work in which mostly non-tenured people are involved&lt;br /&gt;
* Relies on the risks of getting rid of a lot of people at once&lt;br /&gt;
* White colleagues don’t care about librarians of color WHEN THEY SHOULD - https://twitter.com/audiocat7/status/1158126750611718145 &lt;br /&gt;
* Self-advocacy creates additional inequities &amp;amp; prevents us from moving together: those who have less power positionally will definitely be left behind&lt;br /&gt;
* Not that self-advocacy is wrong e.g. need to be able to make at least a living wage, but the work doesn’t stop there: all of us look not only at our own individual salary situations but look across the organization&lt;br /&gt;
* The necessity of seeing that your circumstances are intertwined with others’ - if someone’s in a contingent position at your org&lt;br /&gt;
* Organizations try to pit individuals against one another if they feel threatened → people are afraid that if they make noise they’ll lose what little gains they have&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Additional topics ===&lt;br /&gt;
Advocacy efforts of professional organizations&lt;br /&gt;
* What can professional organizations do here? What is their role?&lt;br /&gt;
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Morale, burnout, bullying, and other mental health issues&lt;br /&gt;
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== Resources ==&lt;br /&gt;
UCLA temporary librarians letter: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h-P7mWiUn27b2nrkk-1eMbDkqSZtk4Moxis07KcMwhI/edit&lt;br /&gt;
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Archivist salary transparency open spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JVDjwC6JOkQpQFEnZ8pogGqoRzyvrQdNm5T3qyd4_u0/edit#gid=0&lt;br /&gt;
(of particular interest/relevance?: permanent/temporary category; years of experience category - people with 4-6 or more of experience working temporary positions)&lt;br /&gt;
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Collective Responsibility white paper draft for public comment: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iyHXWQyB1PMVXcjY83B0Lg-oBe_OGjlISKpH7NYTLEA/edit?usp=sharing&lt;br /&gt;
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OSF repo: https://osf.io/af9hz/ &lt;br /&gt;
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DLF Labor Ethical Guidelines draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C0VSpyM4z5co9BrrhgQX0Jtvhc79Wtmlq_va4kQYiR0/edit?usp=sharing&lt;br /&gt;
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== Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
Next meeting: Friday 9/6, 2pm ET/11am PT: Tech Workers Coalition, Jess facilitating&lt;br /&gt;
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ISO facilitators for 10/4 &amp;amp; 11/4 - let Amy know if interested&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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