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		<title>Adw: Notes from the Labor WG call 2019-06-03</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Notes from the Labor WG call 2019-06-03&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;DLF WG on Labor in Digital Libraries, Archives and Museums: Valuing Labor Subgroup&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Meeting minutes: June 3, 2019&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Wiki Resources and Signal Boosting&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Facilitator: Jess Farrell&lt;br /&gt;
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Note-taker: Amy Wickner&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://wiki.diglib.org/Labor/Valuing-Labor/2019-Calls Complete 2019 schedule]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview of the Maintainers ==&lt;br /&gt;
Started ~5 years ago - Lee &amp;amp; Andy Russell thinking through ideas / but also sort of as a joke re: Walter Isaacson Innovators book&lt;br /&gt;
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Happy hour → 2 conferences @ Stevens Inst 2016 &amp;amp; 2017 → word of mouth → global interdisciplinary research community&lt;br /&gt;
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Started out pretty academic (historians, historians of tech, archivists, artists)&lt;br /&gt;
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2017 conference included practitioner-focused day (community development groups, NGOs, CEOs of companies, activist groups)&lt;br /&gt;
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Moving into more of a practitioner focus&lt;br /&gt;
* Recentering cultural attention away from new things to the work maintainers do to keep society going&lt;br /&gt;
* Quickly moves to labor policy because maintainers are so underpaid&lt;br /&gt;
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Maintainers in the workforce&lt;br /&gt;
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Project just getting off the ground - maintainers as prompt to rethink labor policy&lt;br /&gt;
* United Way - Asset Limited Income-Constrained Employed - 40% of Americans struggle to pay monthly rent &amp;amp; other costs&lt;br /&gt;
* Divided workforce in to innovator/maintainer/[care?] roles&lt;br /&gt;
* BLS occupation statistics → divide into innovative/inventor / maintainer roles → 95% of Ohio (first state looked at) are maintainers; holds across all states&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://themaintainers.org/connect Connect with Maintainers]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Overview of Information Maintainers ==&lt;br /&gt;
Why it’s a compelling framework for information professionals&lt;br /&gt;
* Got involved starting with first conference, immediately connected with conversations happening there&lt;br /&gt;
* Interdisciplinary nature of the conference, always some practitioners, conversations between history/theory people &amp;amp; people doing maintenance in their real lives&lt;br /&gt;
** From the chat: librarians and archivists talk about the need for interdisciplinarity all the time, not even from a power-building perspective, but from an advocacy perspective, and to just build relationships...and we never actually practice that in our in-person meeting spaces (conferences etc)&lt;br /&gt;
** From the chat: Perhaps one reason is that by being truly interdisciplinary others can’t place you in the square peg world, thus we try to ‘fit’ in, when we are mutli-faceted&lt;br /&gt;
* Hoping to connect people across sectors that were traditionally isolated, information professionals thinking more broadly about who we might build labor power with - janitors, not curators&lt;br /&gt;
* Connects with thought happening in archives (and sort of libraries) world re: care ethics&lt;br /&gt;
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Started at 2nd Maintainers conversation (2017)&lt;br /&gt;
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How to operationalize ideas - LAM people already doing maintenance work but not talking about it&lt;br /&gt;
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Librarians, archivists, digital preservation people&lt;br /&gt;
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White paper&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.3236409 Information Maintenance as a Practice of Care]&lt;br /&gt;
* How we think this maintenance framework applies to the world of information maintainers&lt;br /&gt;
* Releasing to the broader world pretty soon&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://themaintainers.org/miii Maintainers III] coming up in October, Washington, DC&lt;br /&gt;
* Bigger, focused on practitioners, 4 tracks&lt;br /&gt;
* Looking at proposals for Information track right now&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discussion (Q&amp;amp;A) ==&lt;br /&gt;
How did this group come together? (DLF Labor WG, all info is on [https://wiki.diglib.org/Labor wiki])&lt;br /&gt;
* [long-ass overview by Amy]&lt;br /&gt;
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To what extent have Maintainers used the Valuing Labor research agenda? How do they connect?&lt;br /&gt;
* Yes - looked at both research agenda &amp;amp; guidelines for grant-funded positions&lt;br /&gt;
* Forthcoming white paper has sidebars / exemplars of where the work we’re talking about is already going on, including Labor WG&lt;br /&gt;
* In the bigger Maintainers project there’s quite a bit of overlap (not just info maintainers)&lt;br /&gt;
* Recently funded grant to look at maintenance etc. are valued within engineering, where it’s often defined as “not engineering”; encouragement to look at city planning &amp;amp; architecture → these dynamics happen in many different fields&lt;br /&gt;
** From the chat: One of the consequences of devaluaing maintainers is that people perceived as maintainers who are actually more like innovators(?) also get devalued. So I mean all the digital archivists who make literally $100k less than someone in the IT/corporate tech world who could map their job competencies almost 1-1&lt;br /&gt;
* Interested in institutional self-assessment &amp;amp; measurement in general - how do you measure well-being of maintainers in general?&lt;br /&gt;
* Shared focus on research as one way in which these things happen&lt;br /&gt;
* Maintainers community framework&lt;br /&gt;
** Sloan grant to build up Maintainers org&lt;br /&gt;
** Looking across different professions &amp;amp; sectors for common structures &amp;amp; phenomena&lt;br /&gt;
** Aggregate lessons learned, metrics&lt;br /&gt;
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Early impressions on where to talk about metrics, assessment, etc.?&lt;br /&gt;
* Shock of the Old&lt;br /&gt;
* We don’t have good measures of maintenance as a portion of economic activity → makes it hard to talk about in anything other than subjective terms&lt;br /&gt;
* Things: How do we get better at maintenance e.g. digital preservation, maintaining the stuff around us?&lt;br /&gt;
* People (especially uncomfortable re: metrics): Human resources, conflict resolution, ombudspeople, not just how satisfied workers are but also whether maintenance workers feel recognized &amp;amp; respected; whether they feel they have the resources they need&lt;br /&gt;
** e.g. in libraries, new initiatives introduced → people responsible for them without recognition or resources and with stress&lt;br /&gt;
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Follow-up: How does gender play into that?&lt;br /&gt;
* Digital archives request for resources&lt;br /&gt;
** Women leaving digital archives &amp;amp; citing inequitable allocation of resources&lt;br /&gt;
** “Digital” brings in a lot of gendered attitudes re: technology x work&lt;br /&gt;
* Thinking more broadly, women do far more maintenance in the world&lt;br /&gt;
* Connect to feminist literatures on invisible / feminized work&lt;br /&gt;
* OSS communities&lt;br /&gt;
* Women tasked with maintenance roles more often in organizations&lt;br /&gt;
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What actions do you envision being taken by the research you&amp;#039;re building&lt;br /&gt;
* Long-term action: valuing labor&lt;br /&gt;
** Core hypothesis about Info Maintainers is we need to think about who we align ourselves with to build labor power differently than we have in the past&lt;br /&gt;
** As long as we continue to look inward, to divisive credentialing to build power as a workforce we’re not going to be effective&lt;br /&gt;
** Maintainers gives us a framework to rethink that: who out there is doing work that’s similar to us, understands these experiences of not being seen?&lt;br /&gt;
* Short-term&lt;br /&gt;
** Start building maintenance-centered conversations at existing information professional gatherings, SAA, other conferences&lt;br /&gt;
** Virtual roundtables for the white paper&lt;br /&gt;
** Curriculum development (Amelia Acker)&lt;br /&gt;
* Trying to be realistic about institutional self-assessment &amp;amp; managers → building tools to empower workers to begin conversations at their place of work&lt;br /&gt;
* We don’t have to reinvent from scratch - use existing tools&lt;br /&gt;
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What role do labor unions play in building power for maintainers? And how do we confront the fact that very few infomaintainers are unionized?&lt;br /&gt;
* How to build power without a union?&lt;br /&gt;
* Trying to involve unions in MIII e.g. transport unions&lt;br /&gt;
* Don’t really see these things happening without actual labor politics&lt;br /&gt;
* Conversation about labor x information workers has been happening forever&lt;br /&gt;
* Emphasis that Maintainers is not an innovation! Building on past work, bringing together people who are already doing this work.&lt;br /&gt;
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What can people in Labor WG do to support / get involved in Maintainers?&lt;br /&gt;
* White paper - get it out there, participate in roundtables&lt;br /&gt;
** Possibly including one on labor&lt;br /&gt;
* Not looking for a cookie! Looking for substantive engagement, including “you were wrong” (if necessary)&lt;br /&gt;
* Always looking for ideas, feel free to pitch ideas, collaborations&lt;br /&gt;
* Info Maintainers is looking to grow, will offer ways to join when the paper comes out&lt;br /&gt;
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== Announcements ==&lt;br /&gt;
Job alert: Research Librarian @ AFSCME&lt;br /&gt;
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Museum workers’ salaries: http://www.artnews.com/2019/05/31/google-spreadsheet-museum-workers-disclose-salaries/&lt;br /&gt;
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Next meeting: Monday, July 1, 3pm Eastern / 12pm Pacific - facilitator needed&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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